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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:30 am 
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Erm, mind saying what the update's on? Oh wait.. I'm gonna guess beta material. Did you get CHitSpang to actually work? None of us could.

PS: Mickey has fixed TG so it can be viewed by non-registereds. See the discussion on CHitSpang, if you like:
http://www.tresgame.co.uk/phpBB3/viewto ... ?f=12&t=23

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:16 pm 
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Getting it to work... I'm not really sure. Since the particles system is active, they may both conflict if the HitSpangs are too. I think I've seen it work, but can't be certain of it, when I tried it again I only got a particle jet...
We know HitSpangs were disabled at some point before final release, it may be a matter of looking carefully into the beta's decompilation.

I'm uploading my test level, you can get it after I post the link.

EDIT: here's the link
http://www.trescom.org/files/Levels/PVtest.rar (12MB)

Try it in the Beta, not the retail,of course...

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Well that was interesting. :lol: No CHitSpang I'm afraid. :? I also thought I saw it, on the first shot I fired, but then it always seemed like particles. Probably some sort of expectance perception. Anyway, that is one mean para :lol: Not only did he manage to kill me a few times on his own (you shouldda used GUIApp to make a working SCN! for restarting), but even after he was dead. Apparently his head is coated with a strong venomous compound - touching it means instant death for Anne.

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Yes, I've noticed that too. As for the .scn file, since I keep re-saving the level, at one point I just stopped bothering with it...

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Just need to pop in here before I forget and say that I figured out exactly how the Priority value works. The values range from 0 to 4, each corresponding to a game quality setting. The number equals the lowest quality setting it will appear in; i.e. the default value is 0 (appears in all qualities), an object with a priority of 2 will appear in quality levels 2, 3, and 4, but not 0 or 1. There have been no objects with Priority 4 which is probably so you can use the second-highest quality without losing objects. It's worth noting that no one today is going to want to play on quality setting 1 (or 0), unless you're trying to play Tres on a hacked phone or something, so priority settings which only operate in this range will be fairly useless.

PS: Certain shifts between quality settings appear to teleport CWaterEntities several feet North or South, for entirely unknown reasons. It is recorded in savegames. So just be careful and try to avoid changing quality near any water...

PPS: I've written up this common-idea list for the uses of each priority value:

~~0 - Default (Always needed)
~~1 - Useless (Might as well use 0 if you're going this low)
~~2 - Stuff you'd only give up if stability depends on it
~~3 - Low-poly items you prefer but don't need
~~4 - High-poly nonessential scenery

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Ugh, the lower the priority value the more important it is. That doesn't make sense! :P Good work, interesting to know although probably in the end not extremely useful, still, good to add to our knowledge..

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It actually means the ones with highest values are displayed on highest quality settings only... of course it makes sense. When you lower the quality, the ones with higher priority values won't be shown anymore. But I had already mentioned that in some topic... I remember mentioning either the quality going from 0 to 4 while priority went from 1 to 4, or priority being from 0 to 3... most likely it was the first, matching what you said about 0 being useless.

EDIT: found it

viewtopic.php?f=110&t=7964&p=89894#p89894

Looks like I didn't update the T-Script Reference with all that yet, though. The latest version I have on my HDD just says "1,2,3 in original levels. Tied to video quality settings. (Not sure of exact usage, but eg. at low quality option, Priority 1 objects are not rendered, but Priority 3 objects are.)"...

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I can't remember if it's already been stated and I have about 5 minutes to get ready for work now so time is short.

Anyway was experimenting with the beta/guiapp/retail and found that ReallyDie is used for bool ActDie; A Dinosaur plays ActDie from 0 to ReallyDie and then actually dies (stops making noises, stops doing anything post death) for good. Of course ActDie was removed in retail engine nothing we try will get it working :P so that's really a shame because ActDie worked and seemed to work well... of course there is the problem of players thinking it is still alive and shooting it out of panic and wasting ammo (not a problem in retail levels IMO guns are so abundant) that and ActCower also looks somewhat similar to ActDie (ActCower only occurs when Fear and Pain are high IIRC

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Some necro, but it's worth it...

Going through the PC Gamer executable, I realized there were some additional t-script parameters which were likely associated with magnets back then:

Code:
BetaX
BetaY
BetaZ
Breakable
BreakStrength
BTorque
DeltaX
DeltaY
DeltaZ
KappaX
KappaY
KappaZ
Freedom
Magnet
MasterObject
Mu
Omicron
SlaveObject
XFree
YFree
ZFree
HandPickup
ShoulderHold


It appears the Magnet model was changed or simplified at some point, or maybe they changed the names of some parameters, I don't know... compare to the retail ones:

machf wrote:
CMagnet values:
Code:
Breakable
BreakStrength
Delta
Drive
Delay
AngleMin
AngleMax
CMagnet
Instance
Gender
Magnet
MasterObject
RestoreStrength
SlaveMagnet
SlaveObject
XTFree
YTFree
ZTFree
XFree
YFree
ZFree
HandPickup
ShoulderHold



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Hmmm. Any clue on the Delta/Kappa stuff or Omicron? I feel like someone in the right field would know what those mean...

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Literally, they are just names of Greek letters (same with mu). They're probably just variables in the physics equations that govern the behavior of the in-game magnets, so you can specify exact behavior.

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No idea, really. I've seen those terms in the source code, but I don't know what they're about...

EDIT:

PhyState-000.txt wrote:
Last time=0
OurKappa=0 OurDelta=0 OurMu=0
anne_this_terrain_bit=0 anne_last_terrain_bit=0



ControlArm: PosUrge=0 OrientUrge=0 Curl=0 UnderControl=0
Pelvis_Set_Crouch=-100 Pelvis_Jump=0 0 0

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By default the expression checks if a trigger has ever fired, and putting "@" before the trigger name means "check the current state", or "Evaluate Now", but not all triggers have that function.

"Check the current state"... This refers to CBooleanTrigger, right? (it's been a bit) Does it refer to anything in addition?
"Evaluate Now"... whaaat does this mean.

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