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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:39 pm 
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vorob wrote:
I completely lost, dunno what to do to have best version of trespasser. Currently, i've got tresp 1.1 and CE patch...


That's good enough.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:17 pm 
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machf wrote:
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I completely lost, dunno what to do to have best version of trespasser. Currently, i've got tresp 1.1 and CE patch...


That's good enough.

Yep, you're totally good with that. You only really need ATX at this point if you're looking for a totally unbroken playthrough of some fan-made levels.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:06 am 
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We ought to put up a list of levels which require actual ATX for full functionality.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:19 am 
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Well, you can start thoroughly playing every single released level both with ATX and CE and compile that list.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:24 pm 
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It depends a bit on the definition of "requires". From a game mechanics point of view IIRC, CE can play ATX levels. Because missing functionality could be considered cosmetic components (rain, maps). The spitting dino is stretching the cosmetic definition, but not a show stopper I'd say.

If the definition means play it with 100% ATX features working, then it's a different story.

Aside from rain, as noted in other posts above, it is correct that it should be possible to implement replacements for the missing features in CE through scripting.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:00 pm 
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Lee Arbuco wrote:
The spitting dino is stretching the cosmetic definition, but not a show stopper I'd say.
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Aside from rain, as noted in other posts above, it is correct that it should be possible to implement replacements for the missing features in CE through scripting.

The spitting dinosaurs in ATX don't use an extended action type, but rather an external configuration file (or a set of them). Given that CE can implement them likewise using external configuration files, I wouldn't consider it lacking the ability in any way. It's only that the required config files are different, that's all.
The only unimplemented extended actiontypes in CE are, IIRC, the rain/snow one and the map one... and as you said, they are cosmetic ones and their lack doesn't make the levels unplayable.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 pm 
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In fairness, the scripted spitters do need a T-script addition, to assign the relevant scripts to the dinos and projectiles involved.


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the map one...

Doesn't CE come with a .nut file which has the beginnings of a script for the map function as well?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:31 pm 
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There's a rudimentary HUD sample script, to show how images can been drawn on screen. That sample also includes some commented out stuff of where one could insert some map draw related functionality. It isn't fully implemented though, just some suggestions and hints basically.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:26 pm 
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Also technically, you can have jumping raptors in CE by pushing them off high terraces of terrain.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:16 am 
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Also technically, you can have jumping raptors in CE by pushing them off high terraces of terrain.

True, but what I'm talking about is something more along the lines of the Raptors jumping randomly during the ActBite action of their own accord rather than having to script it yourself.

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Also technically, you can have jumping raptors in CE by pushing them off high terraces of terrain.

True, but what I'm talking about is something more along the lines of the Raptors jumping randomly during the ActBite action of their own accord rather than having to script it yourself.

Forget Drac's rants. CE already allows you to have jumping raptors if you enable the formerly disabled dinosaur activities in trespasser.ini and add the necessary activities to the raptors' t-scripts (in this case, I'd say ActJump and ActJumpBite are what you need).

trespasser.ini wrote:
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[Game]
;-----

EnableAiActivityEx=-1


t-script wrote:
bool ActJump = true
bool ActJumpBite = true


If it's not working for you, it's that you've done something wrong...

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machf, I've tried all of those values on Raptors and still to this day have yet to see naturally jumping Raptor-skeleton dinos, and I've had the AIActivites set at -1 ever since I first downloaded CE. Are there some Float values I'm missing or something in my T-Scripts?

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It appears the upload issue have been resolved, including the forum attach issue. I have uploaded the latest version to TresCom.

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tatu wrote:
It appears the upload issue have been resolved, including the forum attach issue. I have uploaded the latest version to TresCom.

Good. I still can't properly connect to the server through FTP...

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