Cant get it to work

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 4:38 pm

I am having trouble:

I followed this:

<<< FOR USE IN TRESPASSER DEMO:
1)PLACE FILES INSIDE OF TRESPASS/DATA FOLDER.
2)RENAME TRESPASS FOLDER TO 'TRESPAS'
3)OPEN TC.SCN FILE WITH HEX EDITOR; CHANGE DATA PATHWAY FROM C:/
TRES CD/DATA TO C:/TRESPAS/DATA
4)SAVE YOUR CHANGES.
5)LOAD, AND START LEVEL >>>

But when i use a hex editor to open tc.scn all I see is garbled crapola. What am I doing wrong ?

Post by **Rebel** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 4:58 pm

Ignor, the garbled crapola. Type in find; 'C:/tres cd/'

change that to 'C:/trespas/'

The readable portions of the file are limited...

*If you're going to play inside demo, you should replace all the tpa files with retail versions, too. Otherwise, most of the audio will be missing*

Troodon · Post by **Troodon** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:01 pm

See also my workaround for Demo data path renaming procedure in Creations forum.

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:27 pm

Rebel wrote:Ignor, the garbled crapola. Type in find; 'C:/tres cd/'

change that to 'C:/trespas/'

The readable portions of the file are limited...

*If you're going to play inside demo, you should replace all the tpa files with retail versions, too. Otherwise, most of the audio will be missing*

Roger on the tpas.
But when I looked for 'C:/tres cd/' it said no string not found ???

Post by **madppiper** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:33 pm

try to look for C:\ and change that path right afterwards...

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:39 pm

madppiper wrote:try to look for C:\ and change that path right afterwards...

Still nothing.
I also noticed I have no tc.swp file in the femo folder, retail folder, or the game cd.
Did I get a bad download of the beta level perhaps ?

Post by **madppiper** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:40 pm

uhm.. you do not have a swp until you load the levl in the game...

the swp is then being generated by the .exe file...

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:45 pm

madppiper wrote:uhm.. you do not have a swp until you load the levl in the game...

the swp is then being generated by the .exe file...

Well then the swp aint the problem.
Could my TC.SCN be corrupt ?

Post by **Rebel** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 5:52 pm

Everyone is getting all mixed up, here.

The beta.level has it's own files; tc.scn, tc.grf, tc-130.pid, tc-130.swp, tc.wtd. Only if you play inside the retail, will the engine generate a copy of the tc.swp file and place it inside of the Dreamworks/trespasser folder.

All of these files should be inside of the Trespas\data folder.

Please verify their location. Also, please be certain that you haven't 'moved' your trespas demo folder. That data path should be;

c:\trespas

If you can't get the tc.scn file altered, let me know and I'll upload one for you.

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:01 pm

Rebel wrote: If you can't get the tc.scn file altered, let me know and I'll upload one for you.

Yes, please do.

Post by **Rebel** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:02 pm

Uploaded the scn into a self-extracting zip. One point, you need to rename your trespass (demo) folder to 'trespas'. Drop, one of the s's.

http://www.trespasserextras.com/scn.exe

Troodon · Post by **Troodon** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:11 pm

Rebel, I still can't understand why this data path string is important. If you open the original SCNs in a binary editor you can see the GRF paths are something like M:\Island\Ingen...GRF. In Andres' minilev the path is Z:\minilev.grf. How come in some cases the path in the file is irrelevant while in this case it matters? I'm asking because loading TC (files copied to a CD-ROM) takes a very long time if the data path is incorrect. Thanks.

Post by **Rebel** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:22 pm

The minilev.scn is a dummy file, mostly. The mapping is there only to give the file validity; the scn's value table has been omitted. In the tc.level's case, many of the models are listed in the value table of the scn, therefore it expects to find them listed in both the grf n' scn files.

Not sure what the deal is with the retail's odd Drive letter. Maybe it's an internal character, whereas the engine refers that drive letter to the installed directory. (should have said, drive letter and path)

pb109 · Post by **pb109** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:17 pm

Do the files absolutely have to be on the C drive ? Because neither my demo nor my retail game are on the C...

Also can I get a checklist of files in the TresCom_Ops_publicbeta0.4.exe ? The instructions talk about a "LI_OTHER_0" file but the beta0.4 I downloaded does not spit this one out.

Post by **Rebel** » Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:28 pm

How many drives do you have?

The Li_other_tga file is a replacement screenload; don't worry about it if you can't locate it, doesn't matter.

tc.scn
tc-130.pid
tc-130.swp
tc.grf
tc.wtd

credits.txt
quik install.txt
instructions.txt
features.txt
li_other_0.tga