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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:00 pm 
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That sounds about right. Isla Nublar would be 99% jungle, and you'd be walking along roads for hours. It just wouldn't be fun.

I'm not so sure about that. Ever played TL1?

The problem with Nublar is that it's so large, and we already have a preset geography to go by. I was referring to an Isla Nublar map at 1:1 scale...it would be absolutely enormous by Trespasser standards. As I discovered a while back, Isla Nublar at its widest point is 20 miles across - and the island is roughly double that size vertically. There's no way that, even if we could make a level that large, it would be interesting to play whatsoever.

TL1 on the other hand has no particular geography it had to go by, which allows for far more creative freedom and overall makes it far more interesting.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:54 pm 
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I wouldn't call them linear but TL1 didn't cover near as much area as RTJP gets into. TI I must admit I am worried about your ability to cover all areas in your latest version with interesting stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:51 pm 
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I wouldn't call them linear but TL1 didn't cover near as much area as RTJP gets into. TI I must admit I am worried about your ability to cover all areas in your latest version with interesting stuff.

I was worried as well until I actually got going on the current level. At the moment, you can actually walk across the entire level from start to finish, so I'm able to get a good idea of where there needs to be more interesting stuff thrown in the mix. A big change as well is that my terrain skills have improved a lot since that version, so there are more interesting terrain features spread about the level which will break up the monotony that was the older level.

The movement of the helipad to a different location in the south of the island also made a massive difference, as you no longer have to walk those endless empty cliff roads to get out of the southern mountains. That was one of the things I disliked most about the earlier level, and I'm really glad to have found a way to eliminate 75% of that trek in this version. Thusfar, as per my planning, there is a grand total of 1 uninteresting road section in the entire mod (not just Helipad) which I simply have no way to fit anything interesting into...but luckily, I have an idea which will vastly reduce the time it takes to cover that stretch of road. :wink:

Here's a comparison between the scales of some of the largest Tres levels to date (plus East Dock since it's a Nublar mod) and RTJP's Isla Nublar. On the right is a small corner of a 1:1 scale Isla Nublar map. Don't even suggest trying to squeeze in 1:1 scale Sorna, since it's about double the size of Nublar. :P
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:04 pm 
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I meant not in 1:1 scale, but a big sense of scale enough for where the narrative/action takes place, sort of like a Trespasser type pathway, something that would take acouple hours to get through even though you aren't progressing through the island much. JPDS is exactly what it is, a big area in parts covering the southern part of Sorna. And your current Nublar mapping will work, helipad>next level>next level>etc

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:07 pm 
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I meant not in 1:1 scale, but a big sense of scale enough for where the narrative takes place, sort of like a Trespasser type size, something that would take acouple hours to get through even though you aren't progressing through the island much. JPDS is exactly what it is, a big area in parts covering the southern part of Sorna.

Yes, that could certainly have worked, but again you'd only be seeing a small chunk of Nublar and encountering very few actual locations. The distance between the VC and the Raptor pit would be about the same distance between the Beach and the Town, for instance, if I was using the same coordinates for locations as in RTJP. I wouldn't want to compress all of Nublar's major facilities into one small patch of terrain.

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Nice map... That corner of Nublar looks like it's about to step on everything lol.

...Picking up the tour!

The main gate, looking all quite impressive.

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The Visitor Center at last! I like this bridge thing.

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Looks a lot like that VC artwork on the main site.

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Really like this hallway for some reason. I think because it comes between places we DID get to see.

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In the end I had to fly to get there, into the Control Room. Very nice, John. Would be nice to have a puzzle requiring you to use one or more of these somehow.

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A hatchery for visiting disgruntled employees...

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Spooky intro to the Raptor Pens. I notice there are several places outdoors with lights where we really wouldn't be seeing them.. I still think you should add the viewing area in the tower as the blueprints show and Hammond mentions in the film.

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And that concludes this part of my tour! Next time, into the Park.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:20 am 
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Nice map... That corner of Nublar looks like it's about to step on everything lol.

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Exactly what I was thinking. It needs very dramatic music, "pom, pom, pom", a little march or something. :P

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The Visitor Center at last! I like this bridge thing.

The bridge is still there in the new version, albiet with a new and improved model. :wink:

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Really like this hallway for some reason. I think because it comes between places we DID get to see.

Credit hppav with that one. There are still some things left to put in there, and there should be a railing on the balcony outside, as well as a staircase to the roof.

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I notice there are several places outdoors with lights where we really wouldn't be seeing them..

Yeah, I only had those in as placeholders in case of night-time. They would have been hidden in the final version.

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I still think you should add the viewing area in the tower as the blueprints show and Hammond mentions in the film.

I'll have to continue to think about that one as it would require a lot of tedious terrain work, since it's underground. My impression was always more that they would have improved the exterior walkways and fencing so as to be safe for visitors, adding glass to the fences and such. Remember that this was not originally the holding pen for the Raptors - presumably the viewing areas would have been added later.

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Yeah, this map is amazing aside from the engine limitations. Reminds me of what JPO could of been *looks down in sadness*

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Yeah, this map is amazing aside from the engine limitations. Reminds me of what JPO could of been *looks down in sadness*

Thanks, Krit. :) But the old level is nothing compared to the new one...in paraphrase, as Draco put it, "it feels like the first time I've seen a real tropical island in Trespasser!"

EDIT: Cool, just reached T-rex rank with that one! :P
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...What did you put in there, King Kong? :P

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So as it turned out the park area after the JP gate was.. mostly empty. Went into full-on fly mode to continue exploring.

I reeaally liked this area. It's so cool and swampy! Only wish it had better terrain textures.

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It was around here that the basketball dinos began to be accompanied by an angry trashcan, caught somewhere in the whirling blades of those three dots in the North.

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Fun JPDS Utility Shed style interior...

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I just loved the angle from this view. Very nice environment. Honestly this expansive island, if possible, would have been beautiful to look at.

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So this desert path thingy.. I just like it. Might steal those terrain textures sometime. They would make for great future Uxmal mods.

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Very nice, John. Very JP-themed VIP hotel rooms with a lovely view, I like it.

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And finally... TI tells me he doesn't like this building but I love it. Since it won't be in the final RTJP I might just put it somewhere sometime.

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