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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:32 pm 
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Greetings everyone!!

Long time JP Fan here! [BIG shocker I know!]

I first played Trespasser when it first came out, around 1999 or so, it was a Christmas gift. I found myself getting easily frustrated, but still intrigued by the game...but after not getting far, and killing, as well as getting killed by, many raptors, I sadly gave up on the game. But found myself over the years, attempting to give the game another shot with varied success.

One aspect of the game I really liked was Hammond's voice overs. which led me to discovering Jurassic Time, which is exactly what I was hoping existed somewhere [So I wouldn't have to attempt the project myself :p] As well as Klayton's playthrough, which inspired me recently to want to give the game yet another shot, now being a little older, wider, and more patient with such things.

So...nostalgia aside...the point of my post;

Windows 10 does not like the beta builds! Apparently I don't have the appropriate Pentium Processor and no other will do!
Aaaand the PCGamer build asks for an installation disk...

Any tips on how to get these rare versions to work with Windows 10??


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:48 pm 
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Welcome to TresCom!

I know people have had mixed result from getting the early builds to run properly.
Try running and installing the game as an administrator (right click and run as admin) and be sure to install it outside of Program Files.

For the processor issue I remember someone said a workaround is to delete a .dll in the game folder named process.dll or something similar :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:24 am 
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Welcome to TresCom!

I know people have had mixed result from getting the early builds to run properly.
Try running and installing the game as an administrator (right click and run as admin) and be sure to install it outside of Program Files.

For the processor issue I remember someone said a workaround is to delete a .dll in the game folder named process.dll or something similar


Thank you for the warm welcome! It's nice to see this very underrated game getting some love!

Well, I was able to get the beta installed, turned out the 'retail' version was clashing so I just uninstalled that one...

I have read that it's possible to have more than one copy of the game installed through editing the registry...any tips on how to accomplish this? If possible I'd like to have installed (for novelty purposes):

- 'Retail'
- 'Build 55'
- E3
- PCGamer (Or one of the other, depending on recommendations and any 'major' differences (Pine Valley and Plantation levels I've heard about?)

Which versions are recommended for the 'best' 'Trespasser Evolution' Experience?

Sorry about all the questions...the joys of being a newbie! :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:02 am 
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Thank you for the warm welcome! It's nice to see this very underrated game getting some love!


It is, and it is great we have a community that is active even 20 years later :)

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Well, I was able to get the beta installed, turned out the 'retail' version was clashing so I just uninstalled that one...


Yes, that appears to be the issue on modern OS, and sometimes even uninstalling it won't remove all the registry stuff.

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Which versions are recommended for the 'best' 'Trespasser Evolution' Experience?


I would say E3 (For all levels in it)
PCGamer (For mainly PH, tho IJ had one small change which you would notice). PV only got added some staircase to the GeoPlant. JR is kinda cool but,
55 for JR as it is PCGamer but will all the foliage and some other minor changes. PV got some changes but some stuff removed from earlier ones. LAB is worth checking out tho it can crash very easily. And of course BE and SUM is quite cool cause they are in their early staged.
96 cause it got some interesting differences before they started to really cut down on the levels for release.

Builds between 96 and retail can actually be installed like the Demo, as it can use the tpass.ini file to run them without an installation (Thanks to Hilwo for discovering that).

As for Build 55 and earlier, you can use this:
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TrespasserE3PCGamer_PreInstall_FixedRegFinal.7z [645 Bytes]
Downloaded 45 times


I made it for E3 and PCGamer build but you can edit one to work with Build 55 and make sure it uses the paths you are using, then just use the clean one when you wanna play another build.

Hope this helps :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:44 am 
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Welcome to Jurassic Weld...

Cool to see people coming in from Klayton's vids. Hundreds of people are, I noticed, currently watching Trespasser videos done by him.

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tatu wrote:
55 for JR as it is PCGamer but will all the foliage and some other minor changes. PV got some changes but some stuff removed from earlier ones. LAB is worth checking out tho it can crash very easily.

LAB has a tougher puzzle to proceed upwards from the Harbor into the Lab, which I find interesting and successfully managed to solve... but I wonder how many others would, and how many would feel frustrated trying to solve it adequately.

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Eh wha! It crashed too much for me, what was the tougher puzzle?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:35 am 
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machf wrote:
tatu wrote:
55 for JR as it is PCGamer but will all the foliage and some other minor changes. PV got some changes but some stuff removed from earlier ones. LAB is worth checking out tho it can crash very easily.

LAB has a tougher puzzle to proceed upwards from the Harbor into the Lab, which I find interesting and successfully managed to solve... but I wonder how many others would, and how many would feel frustrated trying to solve it adequately.


Oh, I never got around playing it really as it crashed as soon as I moved, but it appears to be very individual if it crashes.

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Eh wha! It crashed too much for me, what was the tougher puzzle?


To get it to not crash ;P

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:19 am 
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Lol. A specific coordinate pathway through the RR shipping containers.....

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It was the capacitor puzzle I think, I got that to work in b55 as well. It's a little tricky, though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:34 pm 
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Wha. I can't remember what I figured out, there..

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Hilwo wrote:
It was the capacitor puzzle I think, I got that to work in b55 as well. It's a little tricky, though.


There is actually a specific actiontype for that one but I am not sure how well tested it is. It is totally doable to fix the puzzle, the trick is to get the weight to work (which it might as they cut it, or they cut it cause testers found it too difficult).

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tatu wrote:
machf wrote:
tatu wrote:
55 for JR as it is PCGamer but will all the foliage and some other minor changes. PV got some changes but some stuff removed from earlier ones. LAB is worth checking out tho it can crash very easily.

LAB has a tougher puzzle to proceed upwards from the Harbor into the Lab, which I find interesting and successfully managed to solve... but I wonder how many others would, and how many would feel frustrated trying to solve it adequately.


Oh, I never got around playing it really as it crashed as soon as I moved, but it appears to be very individual if it crashes.

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Eh wha! It crashed too much for me, what was the tougher puzzle?


To get it to not crash ;P

I mean that not only do you need to get the green keycard to open the gate from the Harbor towards the Lab, but the card reader is on the other side of the fence and has fallen down... so you have to
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extend your arm through the gap in the fence next to the gate, drop the green keycard on the other side, and then push it with a stick or something until it gets close enough to the reader that it recognized it and opens the gate.

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Oh dude I barely remember that. Sounds sweet. Too bad they didn't keep it, that sounds like it would be an iconic memory.

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Draconisaurus wrote:
Oh dude I barely remember that. Sounds sweet. Too bad they didn't keep it, that sounds like it would be an iconic memory.


Nah, it would be like people today who complains a game is too hard if they have to think a bit in an adventure game.
And by that I mean there are people who gets annoyed when the game doesn't tell you exactly what to do :P

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